tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post9068736714388958860..comments2024-01-24T13:11:53.844-05:00Comments on The National Championship Issue: Playoff Revenue...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-14093824888023603592013-02-22T18:31:45.421-05:002013-02-22T18:31:45.421-05:00It is impressive that BCS makes more moeny than Ma...It is impressive that BCS makes more moeny than March Madness. I expected the other way around. price per head serviceshttp://www.hostpph.com/pay-per-head/index.aspxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-12796547472631215192011-12-14T10:21:13.619-05:002011-12-14T10:21:13.619-05:00very important to be clear always with number good...very important to be clear always with number good job thanks for show this upViagra Canadahttp://www.viagracanada.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-86769866695687388382011-12-04T11:03:02.447-05:002011-12-04T11:03:02.447-05:00The summary chart explain every affirmation ;)The summary chart explain every affirmation ;)Eremya Mikehttp://www.makemoneyideeas.webatu.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-22534864943029268612011-12-04T11:02:48.045-05:002011-12-04T11:02:48.045-05:00The summary chart explain every affirmation ;)The summary chart explain every affirmation ;)Eremya Mikehttp://www.makemoneyideeas.webatu.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-33289886537614009292009-02-01T11:08:00.000-05:002009-02-01T11:08:00.000-05:00Imagine the Network money when more then 1 game is...Imagine the Network money when more then 1 game is relevant. When you have 7 games that all go into determining the national champion. Not just one. Oodles of money!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-34163815684143494232009-01-27T11:24:00.000-05:002009-01-27T11:24:00.000-05:00I dont get your comparissons!!! If college basketb...I dont get your comparissons!!! If college basketball brings in less money in the regular season but in the post season catches up your argument is completly wrong. There should be a playoff!!! Go Oklahoma!!! Sam Bradford is a BEAST!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-71379325618508488952008-12-17T23:06:00.000-05:002008-12-17T23:06:00.000-05:00An excellent question. The short answer is because...An excellent question. The short answer is because the NCAA Board of Directors controls how many games teams can play each year. <BR/><BR/>Back in 2005 there was a bunch of discussion, hoopla, and politicking when the NCAA decided to let schools add a 12th game to their season. The main argument was that it would cut into academics too much, but the Board decided to allow it anyway. <BR/><BR/>A playoff would undoubtedly include adding at least one and as many as three or four games to the schedule, which the NCAA most likely isn't going to allow to happen. So even though the NCAA doesn't have anything to do with the bowls, they have a lot to do with the overall structure of the season and how programs are (supposed to be) run.Ed Guntherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17618165280932470376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-82612578017740128332008-12-17T11:30:00.000-05:002008-12-17T11:30:00.000-05:00Why would a playoff system have to go through the ...Why would a playoff system have to go through the NCAA anymore than the bowl games do? Couldn't the BCS run a playoff rather than the NCAAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-20044153457289022882008-12-11T14:07:00.000-05:002008-12-11T14:07:00.000-05:00Ah, okay - thanks, Howard. From that angle, Anonym...Ah, okay - thanks, Howard. From that angle, Anonymous' argument about profit increase does make sense. It seems we're coming at the overall same point from different sides. I'm attempting to counter one viewpoint (some fans') with another (the commissioners'). Imagine the following back and forth. <BR/><BR/>Fan - "College basketball has a playoff and makes $545 Million each year. College football doesn't and makes $120 Million each year. Therefore, if college football had a playoff they'd make a lot more money."<BR/><BR/>Commish - "Not having a college football playoff net me $17-20 Million per year, while the college basketball playoff nets me $10-13 Million per year."<BR/><BR/>You, Howard, say that "these gaps aren't reflective of anything meaningful about the success of the sports' current playoff systems (or lack thereof)" - I agree completely. I'm pointing out the fallacies in the fan's money argument, while you're pointing out the fallacies in the overall argument.<BR/><BR/>Now, if someone were to find the data, crunch the numbers, and say something like...<BR/><BR/>Fan - "College Basketball makes $5 Million per conference in the regular season but $10-13 Million per conference for the post season, while college football makes "$15 Million per conference in the regular season but $17-20 Million per conference for the post season. Therefore college basketball's playoff increases revenue over 200% from the regular season while football's non-playoff only increases revenue 15% from the regular season."<BR/><BR/>I can see that argument swaying the commissioners, but to my knowledge nobody has those amounts or has made the argument to them that way. (And I doubt that the money actually works out that way.)<BR/><BR/>I agree that they're in favor of more profits, but there's more to it than that - it's complex, like everything else. There's tradition, power, and a host of other issues that come into play. So while money is big, probably the biggest, it's not the only part of the equation.<BR/><BR/>As far as applying the numbers wrong, I'm not. The basketball revenue per conference is just that - per conference. They have to divide it between their 9-12 members, not the 327 members of D1-A. Go back and look closer at the NCAA links in the post. <BR/><BR/>I'm not discounting all of that money left over from the $545 Million - I'm saying that the commissioners have to play nice with the NCAA regarding it. They can do whatever they want with the bowl money, and that's a lot of power. By not bringing the NCAA into the football post-season fold, they have a lot more control - it would take A LOT of money for them to give up some of that power.<BR/><BR/>You're point about ignoring the bowl payouts and hours of TV time supports my point that it's not just about money - it's more complex than that. (But in case you're wondering, the hours of TV time for March Madness is about 65.6 hours of games. For bowls it's about 15 - you do the math and see who gets the most bang for their buck.)<BR/><BR/>I might miss on some things, but these numbers are right there in black & white.Ed Guntherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17618165280932470376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-61969366015654367162008-12-11T13:24:00.000-05:002008-12-11T13:24:00.000-05:00The bowl payouts are a joke and should be ignored....The bowl payouts are a joke and should be ignored. The highest (non-BCS) is $8.5 million for the two teams. That is about what an SEC/Big 10/Big 12 team makes per home game in ticket sales alone. Plus you count that the ticket prices are higher and you add the TV rights they could control...a lot of money goes to "bowl people". Some bowls only pay $1.5 million. Basically what I'm saying is that the schools could make more money hosting their own games than what the bowl people payout.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-25401027217703368512008-12-11T13:09:00.000-05:002008-12-11T13:09:00.000-05:00Your applying the numbers wrong. The Basketball r...Your applying the numbers wrong. The Basketball revenue per conf seems low because it is divided among 327 D-1 schools. D-1 Football only has 119 schools. Broken down evenly, Basketball makes $1.66 mil per school from its playoff ...Each Football school would only make $1.05 mil.(at the Fox rate of $125 M). That doesn't make sense with the popularity of Football.<BR/>Plus, its ridiculous to discount money that has "strings attached". That is still a lot of money that the schools want. But you also ignore bowl payouts and hours of TV time in your evaluation. (More games = more money. Hoops plays a lot of games). You miss alot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-63390678248847498762008-12-11T12:50:00.000-05:002008-12-11T12:50:00.000-05:00I think what anonymous is saying, and the question...I think what anonymous is saying, and the question I have as well, is that if basketball makes less money (period, end of story) than football, this argument is somewhat irrelevant. The regular season money does matter because lets say football brings in about 50% more in the postseason (as you determined above), but they bring in 75% more in the regular season, then that means that BBall's profits increase relative to football's in the postseason, due to the ridiculous popularity of March madness. The same thing might happen in the event of a football playoff system - just imagine if that hypothetical 75% more extended into the postseason.<BR/><BR/>Regardless of that, your argument that just because they're already making a lot more money than BBall doesn't make sense either, because those profits could increase with a playoff (or they could decrease, I don't know), and they're surely in favor of that. And also, as anonymous alluded to, and as I did as well, football could just make more money in general than basketball (I'd believe that it does), so these gaps aren't reflective of anything meaningful about the success of the sports' current playoff systems (or lack thereof).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-58561879812435065722008-12-11T11:32:00.000-05:002008-12-11T11:32:00.000-05:00The regular season doesn't matter when you'...The regular season doesn't matter when you're talking about March Madness & the Bowls. And I'm not saying that a football playoff wouldn't bring in a ton of money. I'm saying that if you look at the revenue from a BCS conference commissioner's perspective, the current football post-season brings in 50% more than the current basketball post-season. So trying to use the argument of "you'd make a ton more money" as a way to motivate the commissioners toward a playoff doesn't work - the football postseason already makes a ton more money compared to the basketball postseason.<BR/><BR/>As far as the regular season goes, I don't have any data on those contracts or revenue. But even so, I'm not sure how the idea that basketball narrows the gap in the post-season applies to football playoff motivation. Care to elaborate?Ed Guntherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17618165280932470376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6793424786678923623.post-84893709269056291092008-12-11T10:35:00.000-05:002008-12-11T10:35:00.000-05:00Your comparison doesn't really tell us anything --...Your comparison doesn't really tell us anything -- how does basketball money typically compare to football money? <BR/><BR/>If basketball brings in less revenue than football during the regular season, but narrows the gap in the post-season, your argument completely fails.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com